blog 9; gaming interview

(MY COMMENTS ARE IN PURPLE)
Interactional units defined by- laughter direct statements
Defined by = 2 speakers on same topic


Set interactional units= conversation on same topic with multiple turns/interaction


Change in set of interactional unit
When laugher, direct statements




Messages= what someone says = 1 person + 1 topic


Direct statement that introduce new language




Where does the conversation change focus? What marks those changes?


1.      Being an expert in games doesn’t count as being an expert in software


Ch        I wanted to talk a little, you  talk about your self as a hardware expert, you said software novice, although I bullied you into being competent, what software do you know how to use?
B          you know, what everyone else knows how to use, word, frontpage, powerpoint, excell, spreadsheet things
Ch        so it's interesting, games aren't really considered software are they?
B          they are -
Ch        so you know lots of software
B          yeah, but it's just games (laughing)
(signal for end of that part= laugh)


2.      Relationships between games and software (background)

Ch        so what kind of crossover did you find between learning the games and learning the software everyone needs to know?  Obviously it wasn't real hard for you to learn, frontpage (assertion)
B          I think it's because I had ah, background exposure
Ch        what background?
B          Well, just in learning how to learn a program, I just see buttons, tool tips and ah I make a go at it, the scissors mean I can cut in here, and I can just cut and drag and drop - these a simple things everyone knows (minimizes his expertise) , I guess the only reason I can pick up learning a program is that I just have that knack, no other way to explain it.

3.      Gaming as literacy (chandler again changing topic/control/agency)
Ch        that's literacy - you have the basic tools, the right basic set of assumptions for how to read, understand, interpret a program.  And so what I'm looking for is the connection between all the gaming experience you have and your ability to do that with the applications - the academic applications (connection between literacy and gaming. showing agency while introducing a new topic while relating it to something comfortable/understanding to him ..gaming)
B          well like a lot of games, in the beginning, there's menus.  You don't just start playing.  There's menus, you get to customize your decal your spray, clothes,
laughing (break in conversation)
It's not all playing the game it's a lot of process to prepare for it, there's like box, scripts, you practice it, and you're not playing with other people, you're just like fooling around. (sounds like Chandler can relate this type of gaming to the writing process/research process)
Ch        OK so all those things - same kinds of processes, same kinds of moves - so navigating menus is something you learned from games that can carry over - anything else?
B          I think that is the main thing, I can't connect a First person shooter with Microsoft word, that would be a real stretch
Ch        how about file systems and gaming spaces?
B          you know, you're right, because the game, the games are still software, and they're still files, so there are certain organization of a game that is different from regular files (connection/realization)
Ch  - so what's another thing - so playing those games when you were a little kid set you up to be able to disentangle that DOS system more easily than your stepfather, so what were you doing?
B          like I was navigating through menus
Ch        you got used to trial and error
B          I wasn't being graded - there's no - all right man, let's pass this class you've got to (under pressure situation vs. enjoyment)
Ch        so you're completely comfortable with messing it up and starting over.
B          Oh yeah
Ch        I think the print generation has a lot of hangups with that - what's something else
B          there's a song by Natasha Ben ? I hear it on the radio - it goes like, she says in her song, that we're taught not to make mistakes, we really can't live that way (enlightment)